_________________________________________________________________ VOLUME 2, ISSUE 2 PSYCHNEWS INTERNATIONAL Feb-Mar 1997 _________________________________________________________________ SECTION E: LETTERS -------------------------------------------------------- Note: Please send articles and letters to the PsychNews Int'l mailbox: pni@badlands.nodak.edu, cc'd to fu03c2dj@zedat.FU-Berlin.de -------------------------------------------------------- "SERIOUS MENTAL ILLNESS: WHAT IS IT AND WHAT DO WE DO ABOUT IT?" THOMAS S. SZASZ, M.D. AND E. FULLER TORREY, M.D. OCTOBER 30, 1996 TOWSON STATE UNIVERSITY, TOWSON, MD Commentary by Leo Elliott An annoying habit I first noticed in a former medical-student roommate of mine was his seeming ability to project his voice so softly that it seemed to drop off intelligibility just as it reached my ears, requiring me to lean in closer and closer to follow his conversation. I later decided that this ability was probably an acquired trait, developed by necessity within the confines of the various privacy- less institutions where he worked, where noise abounded and discrete signals, much less a private conversation, were hard to come by. Since then the decibel level of a speaker's voice, particularly in public places, has remained somewhat of a private study, often revealing far more, in my opinion, about the speaker and his agenda, that what is written on the program. When I walked into the lecture hall to hear Dr. Szasz debate Dr. Torrey, my first impression was of an officious-looking man holding forth in front of a small group in the audience, projecting loudly enough for me to catch his every word at the back of the hall, about the virtues and drawbacks of various psychiatrically-prescribed drugs. His audience seemed to be in rapt attention, and the speaker himself seemed totally oblivious to the volume of his voice, or to the show he was presenting. It was then that I realized that, judging by the persuasions present in the audience, I was in for more of a show than a debate, but as it turned out, it was a show well worth the 3.5 hour drive up to Baltimore from Charlottesville that afternoon. Dr. Vatz introduced the speakers very briefly, detailing the high-caliber of their credentials, their lengthy publications, their current work, and the length of time they had both been involved in questions about "Serious Mental Illness -- What Is It and What Do We Do About It?" (As Dr. Vatz confessed his long-time association with Dr.. Szasz, so must I confess my long-time admiration for his frank speaking, plain writing, and his courage in calling into question some of the foundational presuppositions of a major institution. This was my first time to ever hear Dr. Szasz speak, and I must confess that he reminded me somewhat of Buckminster Fuller, except for having more hair than Bucky; and despite Dr. Szasz's pronounced Hungarian accent, I still found him a bit easier to follow than I did Fuller, whose frog-like atonality coupled with a strong Yankee accent, made his monologues a bit of an endurance test for the ears.) Dr. Torrey was the first to speak, and began by detailing his admiration for Dr. Szasz, both personally and professionally, and by listing what he considered to be Dr. Szasz's significant contributions to the discipline of psychiatry, going back several decades. However, despite his major contributions, Dr. Szasz seems to have made some major mistakes, and as Dr. Torrey would later point out, Dr.. Szasz's reputation in the annals of medicine would hinge on whether or not Dr. Szasz was able to recognize his big mistake and correct it while there was still time. Of course, everyone in the audience knew what Dr. Szasz's big mistake was, his denial of the biologic basis of schizophrenia, and so Dr. Torrey proceeded to present his evidence, very succinctly, in the form of a series of slides of brain scans, showing, among other things, the enlargement of ventricular areas supposedly associated with those diagnosed with schizophrenia (Dr. Torrey's present area of focus is among identical twins), and possibly showing differentials in hippocampal areas, also supposedly associated with those diagnosed with schizophrenia. As I'm not sure I'd know what a hippocampal area looked like in a brain scan, or in a cross-sectional slide, I accepted Dr. Torrey's evidence as very impressive (to a layman), and suggestive, if not conclusive, to a neurological novice, of the case he wished to prove. Dr. Torrey also presented several tables of evidence, showing the statistical correlations he had made, and since I was sitting too far back to really study them, and since I probably couldn't have studied them and maintained aural focus on his speech, I decided to do the latter, and it was then that Dr. Torrey's percentages began to sound less impressive than his brain slides -- it seems that patients diagnosed with schizophrenia end up (on the pathologists table) displaying these enlarged ventricular areas and/or enlarged (or diminished?) hippocampal areas, only on the order of five to fifteen percent above average, which this layman hardly found to be conclusive. Now, interspersed with all of these statistical and graphical slides were slides of quotes from various of Dr. Szasz's own writings, submitted in evidence by Dr. Torrey in his effort to reveal to the audience the inherent contradictions and hence the untenability of Dr. Szasz's positions on the reality (the biological basis) not just of "schizophrenia," (a mental condition seemingly the modern therapeutic state's equivalent of the Church's older theological diagnosis of "mortal sin," far removed from the "state of grace" which could only return, _mutatis mutandis_, by the sacramental ministrations of the priest- therapists), but of "mental illness" in general. To this point, Dr. Torrey seemed very respectful and dispassionate, in proper scientific and professional demeanor, as it were. However, once Dr. Torrey finished with the presentation of his evidence and began to focus on refuting the position espoused by Dr. Szasz, it became apparent that, at least for Dr. Torrey, the show seemed more important than the debate. Perhaps Dr. Torrey got rushed for time in trying to get his evidence, and his cards, out on the table in the time allotted by Dr. Vatz, and perhaps he skipped a few steps in his argument -- for this is the only explanation I can draw for the incomprehensible hiatus which led from his efforts to trap Dr. Szasz in his own polemics, to his puerile _ad hominem_ argument about how Dr. Szasz, if he is at all concerned about his place in the history books, had best recant and see the light, lest he be remembered -- CLICK TO NEW SLIDE! -- as "The Author of The Cat In The Hat." Dr. Szasz, fortunately, needed no such theatrical devices, and resorted to little but cool logic and razor-sharp rhetoric to render Dr.Torrey speechless in his initial rebuttal, and many times thereafter. Dr. Szasz's initial response came with gracious good humor, thanking Dr. Torrey for his praise and frankly acknowledging the accuracy of Dr. Torrey's portrayal of his (Dr. Szasz's) positions. Dr. Szasz did not initially address the data presented by Dr. Torrey, choosing instead to state the basic parameters of his well-wrought argument about the unreality of "mental illness," the distinction that "brain diseases" are not "mental illnesses," and that there is still no definitive diagnostic tool to provide a scientific basis for calling "schizophrenia" a brain disease.(If schizophrenia is a brain disease, then why isn't it treated, or even recognized as a disease, by neurologists? Why, in this day of out- sourcing and downsizing and "managed health care," haven't the schools of psychiatry been subsumed into the schools of neurology? And how does any of this justify "psychiatric intervention"?) For the purposes of argumentation, however, Dr. Szasz was willing to concede that "schizophrenia is a brain disease" -- but challenged Dr. Torrey to show what difference this would make in the rest of Dr. Szasz's position regarding the morally corrosive effect that the therapeutic state has on personal responsibility. However, as Dr. Torrey seemed unwilling to wade into the areas of morality or politics, much less the area of personal responsibility, he remained dumb in the face of Dr. Szasz's repeated rhetorical assaults on the credibility of psychiatry as an institution and of mental illness as anything more than a metaphorical disease. However, this is not to say that Dr. Torrey chose to concede. Rather did he revert to the standard of _ad hominem_ argumentation, this time suggesting that Dr. Szasz's perspectives as an old curmudgeon could be understood, and hence forgiven, if one took into account the fact that Dr. Szasz's anti-authoritarian attitudes were shaped by the repression he experienced in Communist Hungary in his youth, and the fact that Dr. Szasz's attitude towards patients-as-malingerers was shaped by Dr. Szasz's early professional experience as a medical doctor with the United States Navy, where malingering was no doubt a very common, and rational behavior for sailors wishing to avoid unpleasant duty. -- Dr. Szasz politely bided his time and allowed Dr. Torrey to gain full, if momentary, advantage by his personal slurs, before advising Dr. Torrey that he hoped his research on brains was better than his research on Dr. Szasz's biography, since Dr. Szasz left Hungary long before the Communists ever came to power, and since Dr. Szasz first learned of malingering as a studious and clever child, long before his service in the Navy, when he discovered that his desires to stay home from school (because he didn't want to go) were usually ignored by his education-loving parents, whereas his desires to stay home from school, because he was sick (as evidenced by the high reading on the thermometer brought on by its covert contact with a light bulb), were recognized. The one-hour debate was followed by a series of questions from members of the audience. Several Szasz supporters called into question Dr. Torrey's criteria for schizophrenic diagnosis (among which was "lack of insight" into their "condition," [by which criterion, it would seem, most of the population could qualify at one time or another]); however, the majority of the question-and-answer time seemed to be taken up with various defenders-of-the-faith endeavoring to paint Dr. Szasz as a heinous (or at least callous) villain (for his suggestion that John Hinckley, prior to the 20th century, would have been promptly tried for the crime of regicide, and executed; Dr. Torrey, on the other hand, suggested that possibly John Hinckley _could_ be released into the community, provided only his drug-regimen was strictly enforced). One questioner in particular comes to mind, who pleaded her case from a wheel-chair and suggested that, had she done some of the things she came close to doing in her "psychotic" or "pre-diagnosed" and "unmedicated" state, Dr. Szasz would have had her locked up and thrown away the key (or worse). She later allowed, in responding to Dr. Szasz's queries, that she did indeed see her psychiatrist, the one who "gave her her diagnosis" (and her drugs) as a "doctor from heaven," and that there's no way she could consider herself in control of her life apart from her medication. I could only stifle my own _selbstgespracht_, which told me that "receiving a diagnosis" came across in the same tone as "receiving the eucharist" or "receiving the sacraments" did, in an earlier time in my life, and how Dr. Szasz's whole argument could receive no better witness than this patient whose life had been miraculously saved, by this "doctor from heaven." Another young questioner queried Dr. Szasz in the same vein, suggesting that surely his artist-friend who had stabbed his own hand because his hands were "screaming at him," must surely be judged to be psychotic, mentally ill, etc. On enlargement of the scenario, in rebuttal questioning from Dr. Szasz, it turned out that this act of self-mutilation did indeed take place in front of an audience; and needless to say Dr. Szasz's suggestion that this act might be a simple (rational, even if dramatic) action of a person in desperate need of attention, rather than a manifestation of "mental illness," drew the same applause and the same boos from those who had been applauding, and booing, throughout the show. I doubt very many minds were changed by the arguments presented during the Szasz-Torrey debate, at least among those at all familiar with their respective positions, but it was, for this observer, quite a good show, and a demonstration, up close and personal, of the kind of courage it has taken a de- literalizer of metaphors, of the caliber of Dr. Szasz, to stand in the face of the aspersions and dispersions to his character, lo these many decades that he has been heaving dead cats into the sanctuaries of psychiatry. Leo Elliott Charlottesville, VA homeboy@esinet.net